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Few reasons I personally don’t go in to the tang/beavertail as high- first, yeah it chews up your hand, 2nd if you need to reposition your grip it makes it harder for your hand to slide higher.

​@vanniek71, thanks for the reply... I appreciate it.

I think the Hogue’s are a bit too soft. You’d want a solid surface to apply it to so it doesnt flex when you grip it. Might work for a while but I think eventually it might start to flake. That being said I’ve never applied it to a Hogue grip so I’m not 100% sure how it would perform

@@vanniek71 Well this is a hold my beer moment.. Im going to try... If I go to Home depot can I match your grit to their sandpaper to feel which one I want to order ..24, 36 or 46/70

@@bigdny99 If you'd like I can send you samples of those grits so you have the exact thing, I am not sure what the sandpaper equivalents would be. Under the contact heading on my website you can shoot me a message. 71create.com/contact

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Yessir, essentially the frame in this video is stippled (more or less) may need a but more epoxy to fill in the dimples but it works fine

Yep you can, may need to use a bit more epoxy to get in all the little dimples but it works fine

For me, because I was replacing Talons all the time and couldn’t find an aggressive enough version. If you like Talons and they work for you that’s great. If not, this is a choose your own adventure alternative that way outlast Talons.

Works great, follow instructions the same as you would for Poly, Steel, G10 etc. The epoxy bonds well to pretty much anything so you would be good to go!

Yup. Or put the epoxy on thicker in that area, few ways to do it

Have to tried cleaning the grip off? Dish soap and water then scrub it with a nylon brush to get the dead skin and crud out of it. If you do need to re-do it scraping off as much as you can with a file, scraper etc and then re-coating is your best bet.

If you have questions reach out, glad to help

You could, but then you risk creating indents in the grip. I’ve found it’s better to dust it, let it sit and “wet” out and then redust over and over until it doesn’t wet out. Then once cured (overnight/24 hours) brush the grip and some particles will fall off, but you get the best overall performance and finish

@@vanniek71 Sounds good. Thanks for the info!

Thanks sir! Hope it helps!

You can scrape a majority of it off, but the great thing is silicon carbide doesn’t wear out quickly. It will last for years and years if you just clean it every once in a while and brush the crud out of it

You should be able to go over the top of the carbide. Just make sure it’s clean.

It all depends on what grit you use and how much you shoot. I've heard of people shooting 50,000 rounds a year re-doing them every year or every other year and some guys that shoot 3-5k rounds a year are on their 5-6th year and cant tell the difference in the grit texture. Unfortunately there is no Hard answer. I can say the grips in the video are still going strong without any wear showing. I do brush them to remove the grip enhancer build up that I use but other than that they are GTG

The epoxy I supply works on all kinds of substrate - polymer, aluminum, steel, wood, glass etc etc. I don’t know of any hardware store that carries silicon carbide grit, but you can source it online fairly easy, but usually have to buy it in larger quantities. The kits we provide include everything you need in one place.

Combo of masking off around the border and a little cleanup with the provided supplies and you can create perfect borders. Some guys even like to dremel a line for their borders… all depends on how creative you want to get!

120/220 grit has been the most popular for that.

@@vanniek71 will the step below catch on shirts ? Not worried about my hands. I stipple bc talon grip sand paper fs my clothes up. I want aggressive as possible while being able to clear garments w/out it sticking to them.

@@Edc-Guy120/220 is not very aggressive. If it will catch on clothes etc I cannot say 100%, the grit itself no, but depending on body type, it may cause the grit to contact more of your clothing. Unfortunately there isn’t a definite answer. I carry 46/70 on one of my edc’s and it’s fine, but I wouldn’t suggest that for everyone

@@vanniek71 seems like it’ll be too weak. Maybe I’ll do a test run on something with the medium.

Unfortunately no they won’t work. The T-800 has a different mounting design

Not sure on the M&P 2.0 haven’t played around with one. You could mix the grit and paint it all on if you want to, but it works best if the epoxy is under the grit. As far as it falling off, after the initial shed of loose particles not much comes off.

@vanniek71 I don't want my hands getting micro slices in them so I was thinking that having the grit entirely coated in the epoxy would keep the sharpness from cutting my hands. Otherwise I guess i could spray some type of clearcoat over it after applying and initial curing.

@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 matte clear coat would work as well. But I like the most aggressive grit and don’t want to dull it at all.

If you check out www.71create.com/store and go to the grip kits there is a sample of each grit next to each other so you can see what they look like

Thanks 👍!!

Depends on what grit you are adding and how thick you lay on the epoxy but maybe 1/16th”? 1/8th if you go really heavy.

@@vanniek71 I'll be using the same grit as you, 46/70 and I also ordered the same epoxy you used. It's going a canik sfx rival. I'm leaving on the mag well extender also.

Thank you!

All depends on the grit and amount of epoxy, and I’ve never actually weighed it but I’d say under 2oz.

I use 46/70 which is more aggressive than the 60/90.

@@vanniek71 what’s the website for the kit?

@@THE1DUB956GAMING www.71create.com/store

Correct, I’d call it “semi-permanent”

It’s not really cheaper or easier actually. Talon is what $20 a grip? So are my kits! Talons you have to clean the grip to apply… same with my kits. Talons wear out (at least mine did about once a month) Silicon Carbide lasts forever. So in the long run it’s actually cheaper. Also with Talons you can’t select your grit aggressiveness, with my kits you can :) But to each their own, nothing wrong with Talons and they work great for a lot of people. Do what works for you!

​@@vanniek71I will probably try it anyways! I didn't know you sold kits that's cool

I use Talons on may pistols nnd have them on my EDC, I use the granulated rubber. I find the carbide just right for my Canik Rival for USPSA Limited Optic division.

Chewy box is flat and empty so not true…. But with 4 dogs, 3 cats, 2 horses and a bird we get a lot of chewy boxes…. Lol

@@vanniek71 🤣Damn with all those animals Chewy definitely made their share! They need to kick back for the free advert. Great video tutorial thank you!

Check out the other release Taylor Freelance has, its slightly smaller

@@vanniek71 haha no I'm sorry I mean the grip. Too rough for carry?

@@920WASHBURN There are different levels of grit. the 120/220 would be fine for carry id think

@@vanniek71 nice thank you